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In a world where gods can be seen by the inhabitants of that world, how can multiple religions even hope to form? If the gods choose to show people that they exist, regardless of area or person, I fail to see how the worshipers could believe different things.

If gods are proven to exist, how can there be different religions?


This question is asking how society would react, including what followers of other faiths would do if god suddenly appeared. I am asking how other religions could form if gods always were around

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I see 2 solutions here.

Devotion to specific gods rather than the pantheon as a whole, called henotheism: the belief in and worship of a single god while accepting the existence or possible existence of other deities.

To a henotheist, entities worshiped by other people can be dealt with a few different ways:

  1. They aren't really deities, they're just powerful malcontents tricking people into worshiping them (e.x.: Satan in Christianity)
  2. They are really deities, but they're evil and should be opposed (e.x.: Ahriman in Zoroastrianism)
  3. They are really deities, but they're the deities of a different place / people / philosophy and so are improper to worship (e.x.: ancient proto-Judaism)
  4. They are really deities, but they're just manifestations of my deity (e.x.: various philosophies within Hinduism and Hellenism)

Each different henotheistic religion can have a different attitude or attitudes towards each other sect. And none of them necessarily have to be "correct" from your omniscient authorial point of view.

Reverse syncretism. In ancient Greece and Rome, there was a tradition called Interpretatio graeca, where they identified foreign gods with Greek or Roman gods. The idea was that well, obviously our gods are real, and we know what they're like and how they intervene in the world, so obviously everyone worships them, even if they have other names for them. This resulted in things like the Romans reporting that the Germanic peoples worshiped the god Mercury, which was their interpretation of the god Odin.

Since your gods are real and do intervene in the world, different peoples are going to understand them in different ways. They'll give the gods different names, and worship them in similar but distinct ways. Perhaps one god appears more often in the north than the others, and comes to be considered the greatest god by the northerners, while another god spends more time in the desert and is revered by the nomads, etc.

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    That's a great answer! I was thinking along similar lines when I was reading the question, and your answer gives more details than I had in my thoughts. My thoughts were specifically close to #3 from your list. – Chait Oct 10 '16 at 23:24
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    I think the second answer would probably be the most likely, in my opinion. This situation has been paralleled twice on Earth, one in the form of Roman vs. Greek Gods, as mentioned above, and the other with Hinduism and Buddhism. Hinduism basically treated the Buddha as another incarnation of one of their own gods, which almost strangled Buddhism before it began. (But then it migrated East, and found new life in China, but that's another story.). So it's definitely plausible. – Atlas the Worldbuilder Oct 11 '16 at 00:23
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    There is the third option: one might believe that the deities are just a figment of their imagination and that them and their tribe are collectively mad. After all, while it might not be a religion per see, one might simply be ignorant to the deities and believe they don't exist at all even as mortal beings. – user64742 Oct 11 '16 at 02:32
  • @TheGreatDuck that would be interesting to see – TrEs-2b Oct 11 '16 at 03:13
  • @TheGreatDuck in a more modern setting you could even combine solipsism, evo psych and quantum woo into a 'scientific' explanation why all the hallucinations are similar – mart Oct 11 '16 at 09:32
  • There could also be differences regarding not the identity of the gods that are worshipped, but their traits. Say, one religion believes their god should be worshipped by sacrificing your firstborn in a holy ritual while another believes that the same god should, instead, be worshipped by building and praying at temples. Or one culture believes it is a god of war and another that it is a god of prosperity. Or one culture believes that the god forbids technological progress while another believes they promote it. This depends a lot on how the gods manifest themselves and what actions they take. – Annonymus Oct 11 '16 at 15:08
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    Why answer your own question in the second person? – Aarthew III Oct 11 '16 at 15:14
  • @AarthewIII it’s a feature of the site to post a self-answered question at one time. That way if you have something to share you can keep the Q&A format. Here’s one I did recently, for example. – JDługosz Oct 11 '16 at 15:31
  • @JDługosz but he is curious why it is posted in the second person tense... – user64742 Oct 11 '16 at 17:40
  • Second person is common enough for Answers. – JDługosz Oct 11 '16 at 19:48
  • Another real world example is with the Mormon faith, they believe that there are multiple Gods but only worship The Heavenly Father, their doctrine even posits that if you are good enough in this life you can ascend and become a God yourself. – TaylorAllred Oct 12 '16 at 02:16
  • The first thing that came to mind when I read this question is The Dragon and the Unicorn by A. A. Attanasio. The series is a very unique King Arthur story, where there exists simultaneously Celtic nature gods, the Norse gods, Angels and Demons that were born from the big bang, Jesus (the "nailed god"), and more! Basically, it boils down to henotheism, as described in this answer—but there are multiple competing pantheons with their own worshippers, and the Christians don't recognize the faerie-like beings as true gods. – DaoWen Oct 13 '16 at 05:27
  • @DaoWen Sounds like it is similar to the Dresden Files, pretty much all Gods every thought up over the years are real in those books. – TaylorAllred Oct 13 '16 at 22:17
  • There is also the Warhammer/Warhammer 40K worlds, where there are many gods which are real. The 4 gods of Chaos are all accepted as real by their worshippers, even though most of them serve only one of the four and regard the other three gods and their followers to be enemies. – EvilSnack Oct 14 '16 at 00:15
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In this world, theism involving the proven gods would map approximately to atheism in our world. Using this comparison, there are a couple of ways to proceed:

"Yes, but where did those gods come from? Did someone create them?"

This is cool, because you actually have precedent. Someone created this universe. We know that for a fact, and we know who it was. Who's to say this didn't happen recursively? After all, humans created The Sims.

"The so-called 'Gods' are nothing but liars. Here's what really happened..."

We already have people saying scientists are making up lies for the money (what money? I dunno). What's to stop this happening here?

Or further along those lines:

"There are no gods! It's all a plot by Big Theology!"

Not sure if conspiracy theories count as religion, but they can surely be taken to those levels.

"I worship Thor only. Really, all the evidence says he created the universe by himself. The others just pressured him to say otherwise."

We have a variety of religions on Earth that came from the same origin. Why can't that happen here? In addition, they'd likely be treated the same way we treat celebrities; with limited information and blind cherry-picking.

"The gods are not worthy of worship. Nature/enlightenment/the Sun/something else is!"

Not all religions focus on gods in the first place. They would still exist.

"Who? I haven't heard of them."

Maybe they lived in a third world country or one with tightly controlled information. Maybe they're a hermit or live in a tribe separated from the rest of humanity. For whatever reason, they simply haven't heard yet, and they have their own guessed answers to life, the universe, and everything.

I'm sure there are other ways to take this, but mostly it comes down to people not believing what they're told, no matter how scientifically accurate. This would be as true of that world as much as it's true in this.

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    You missed one: "Sure the gods exist and they tell us to only wear red." "Really? I hear them say we should only wear black." "You are a heretic! Die!" – SRM Oct 11 '16 at 05:58
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    You forgot "these gods are jerks, I don't care if they exist, I'm not supporting them" Similar to the argument about worshipping nature or something else, but in this case it's simply a choice to worship nothing because you don't need them. I believe the trope is called a naytheist: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NayTheist – dsollen Aug 30 '17 at 14:04
  • That's true, though I'm not sure that counts as an alternate religion, does it? That said, I took "religion" to more-or-less be about belief. I didn't even cover the situation where you believe something but reject it for something else. – AlbeyAmakiir Aug 30 '17 at 23:16
  • they simply haven't heard yet, and they have their own guessed answers to life, the universe, and everything 42! – Hankrecords Feb 02 '18 at 14:55
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It's very easy to have different religions in an area where gods have been proven to exist. In fact, its so easy I'm not even sure how to write an answer about it. I would go so far as to say that having different religions would be the norm and it would be exceptional for there to be only one religion.

As an example, consider those who truly believe that there is a God. We can single them out and create our own little universe out of them. Very quickly you'll notice that even though the Jews, Christians and Muslims all claim to have the same God, they absolutely have different religions surrounding them. That's not to consider the other religions who claim to have a different God all together, or gods, or any other variation.

The key question would be how much effort the deity is taking unifying people and stomping out misinformation. If your deity is spending an extraordinary amount of effort interacting with the world on a daily basis, the people are going to be pretty unified. If your deity does yearly checkups on the world, they're going to be generally organized, but you may see some divisions as people interpret their statements differently. If your deity throws a book at your world and says "here ya go, good luck!" you will find a remarkable amount of disagreement in interpretations.

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    If you want to get nit picky, Islam, Judaism and Christianity are different due to arguments about prophets/deities – TrEs-2b Oct 10 '16 at 23:47
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    @TrEs-2b Yes, though that doesn't change the argument in any way. If you had proof that a deity existed, the arguments they have would be exactly as valid as they are today. – Cort Ammon Oct 11 '16 at 00:02
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    To simplify this concept further, just look at how human society behaves, gods or no. Say you're ruled by a single monarch. How many different viewpoints and opinions and opposing camps would form around this? I see it being no different in the case of real gods. Those who trust His Word, and those who distrust. Those who interpret a statement in one way, and those who interpret it another. I suppose it depends how proactive your God is in correcting such differences of opinion. – flith Oct 11 '16 at 10:37
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    Consider also the Roman Vs Greek pantheons, which were essentially identical, each major character having their equivalent in the other - Poseidon/Neptune, Hades/Pluto, Hestia/Vesta, Hera/Juno, Ares/Mars, Athena/Minerva, Aphrodite/Venus, Hermes/Mercury, Artemis/Diana, Hephaestus/Vulcan, Pan/Faunus... – Dewi Morgan Oct 11 '16 at 21:03
  • Islam and Judaism are remarkably similar in the sense that they are monotheist in the strictest sense. Christianisty is a little different in that its polytheist (god/jesus/holy spirit/various saints with superpowers/etc), which I'll admit is a controversial assertion, but I dont quite see how the trinity is different to the hindu idea of one god with many aspects, or saints that intervene or rule over various things being different to 'lesser gods'. – Shayne Oct 13 '16 at 03:46
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    Christianity is explicitly monotheist. For example Jesus can't disagree with and fight the Holy Spirit, because he would be basically fighting himself. (That's a slight simplification, theology is complicated.) And saints are just normal humans who can't really do anything supernatural. The only thing they can do for you is to just pray to God for a divine intervention. God then intervenes on his own (or not). – user31389 Oct 13 '16 at 13:28
  • Jesus did not invent Christianity ! He lived it ! Therein lies all the difference. It is those who watched these people live, observing Christ (words and deeds) who called them "Christians", which means "little Christ". And He is only the ONE that did not use any weapons, only a whip, only one time ! – Antonio51 Jul 01 '21 at 07:51
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Let’s try the reverse: In what world would there not be different religions?

In this world, no god has any enemies or rivals among the other gods. The gods have a unified vision of what religion should be like, and they have unambiguously communicated this to their followers. They are willing to demonstrate their power whenever some human doubts them, and they put an end to all false prophets who claim a special revelation from the gods, as well as to all who promote a variant form of the gods-approved religion.

Human nature being what it is, I think even in this scenario, people would rebel against the gods’ overwhelmingly oppressive presence. But they would probably agree on which gods exist and what they want humans to do.

Now, let’s change some of these variables:

Maybe the gods fight among themselves, and encourage humans to only venerate their group (or one individual god). The groups might demand very different things from their followers, so their religions could look very different. Or maybe the gods don’t fight, but do have different opinions about the world. So one god might encourage people to fast, while another tells them to feast. Over time, people would flock to the different gods the same way people in the real world adhere to political parties — they’d follow those whose opinions they prefer. Even if the gods do all have the same instructions for humanity, there could be some squabbles among humans about how exactly to interpret those instructions. Or those instructions do not cover every aspect of human life, and different religions form around the various ways to fill in the blanks. These religions would certainly be more similar than the real world’s religions, but to the people practicing them, their differences would be just as important. After all, these are the biggest theological disagreements that exist in their world.

Even if there is universal agreement about who the gods are and what they want, there could be different religions. If the gods don’t crack down on that kind of thing, sooner or later people will get philosophical. And some of them might come to the conclusion that while the gods certainly exist, the thing humans should actually focus on is something else. Maybe there is a transcendental spirit of which the gods and all other things are manifestations, and the real goal is to become one with that. Or maybe all phenomena are illusory, and it’s best to practice non-attachment so as to escape from the world of phenomena. Just because there are gods, doesn’t necessarily mean every religion has to focus on them.

And of course, it would be very difficult to construct a proof of gods that couldn’t possibly be explained any other way. After all, if the gods reliably provide some effect (for example, they answer prayers or strike down blasphemers), that makes them a phenomenon that can ultimately be studied with science. And if they only occasionally perform miracles, stubborn people could dismiss those as coincidences, illusions or superstitious nonsense. And even if the gods themselves obviously exist, whatever they tell humans about the world might not necessarily be true. So as long as the gods don’t actively persecute unbelievers, unbelievers there will be.

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